tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post932249179250643938..comments2023-08-01T05:26:06.539-05:00Comments on Unicorn Bell: Men are from Mars, Women can say Boob Without Giggling Huntresshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-84600927352649206302013-02-15T13:41:55.539-06:002013-02-15T13:41:55.539-06:00"Brandon Sanderson. Jim Butcher. I don't..."Brandon Sanderson. Jim Butcher. I don't think they even have romance per say in their books..." No, not everyone does. These men have marketed their books as fantasy, not romance of any kind. Why are they mentioned here?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12255542706153393206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-74562666810285900492013-02-12T21:40:34.976-06:002013-02-12T21:40:34.976-06:00Nicholas Sparks is the only one I can think of off...Nicholas Sparks is the only one I can think of offhand, but man, he is surprisingly GOOD. Susan Flett Swiderskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425315552148200073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-25107877592508473792013-02-12T17:59:21.470-06:002013-02-12T17:59:21.470-06:00I've been reading a lot of romance lately (*ha...I've been reading a lot of romance lately (*hangs head in shame*), and I came across a pair--one male, one female--writing together under a pen name (which I'll have to look up later). Not bad. I just wonder at the division of labor.Liz A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16531953467834426316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-82288253861940688172013-02-12T17:40:04.185-06:002013-02-12T17:40:04.185-06:00Nicholas Sparks sex is better in the theaters. Do...Nicholas Sparks sex is better in the theaters. Doesn't write much of it in the books I read. BUt he gets the entire emotional, rip your heart out of your chest thing right. I find it hard to believe a man writes the books but maybe he had some really strong women characters in his life. The best M/M book I read...I thought for sure the author had to be a guy and then of course it turned out it was a woman. Guess that was why the book was so good. Ha Ha. Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06167089616020654799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-47890208892752552792013-02-12T12:44:44.157-06:002013-02-12T12:44:44.157-06:00Yah. I realized that I was being pretty Fantasy he...Yah. I realized that I was being pretty Fantasy heavy...I tried to change tact...but I don't have a whole lot of reach in any other genres. I get so easily bored with other stuff. (Not sure if that speaks to the writing out there..or to my attention span...). <br /><br />I also don't have a whole lot of experience with gay romance. I've read some. And yes. It does get pretty angsty. WHY!? Are gay men all just drama queens?! No...not in my experience!<br /><br />Yes. I see your point about the different ways that women and men approach speculative fiction. And for the most part I think you're right. Except that War is very romantic! Wars are FOUGHT over women! And then the man/woman/alienbeast comes home...all worked up. Hot and steamy. What could be more romantic! And death ridden? And this is what most speculative fiction writers write about. War. The Conquering of..something. Again. Very romantic. Conquering. If you go for that sort of thing... :)<br />Alicia Willette-Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02174871217832164495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-4308188520923947382013-02-12T12:30:02.072-06:002013-02-12T12:30:02.072-06:00HA! Sounds like some relationships I've had......HA! Sounds like some relationships I've had...<br /><br />Alicia Willette-Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02174871217832164495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-78411541456666280432013-02-12T12:29:15.713-06:002013-02-12T12:29:15.713-06:00Pillars is one of my all time favorite books. I do...Pillars is one of my all time favorite books. I don't know about any men writing under an assumed name....Alicia Willette-Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02174871217832164495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-36614995377751215732013-02-12T10:51:15.298-06:002013-02-12T10:51:15.298-06:00I thought Shakespeare handled romance pretty good....I thought Shakespeare handled romance pretty good. Most of the names you've thrown up there from OSC to Sanderson to Martin are male fantasy writers (who happen to be quite Chauvinist). Without their fantasy laurels, they are just fat men who are geeks who could be seen at a renaissance faire acting out some really nerdy characters.<br /><br />Nearly every gay man that I know who writes is writing M/M romance for one of the small pubs. Some of the stuff is just so angsty that I can't read it without thinking, "this is completely and utterly ridiculous."<br /><br />I think it has more to do with a frame of mind. Men who write speculative fiction are in the mind of figuring out what causes what or what leads to what. And that isn't very romantic. Women who write romance seem to be interested in answering the question "who is responsible?" which points the finger at someone for good or for ill and is a very emotional thing whether you are looking to reward or punish for a particular action.<br /><br />Plus in fantasy, characters get killed off. I think that appeals more to men because they are grounded in the testosterone fueled world of competition and there can be only one. In romance, no one ever dies. It's a safe read with a required HEA. So yeah...romance kind of divides the sexes.Michael Offutt, Phantom Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10557969104886174930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-28245730908265714012013-02-12T09:23:24.239-06:002013-02-12T09:23:24.239-06:00I agree with the others, probably a lot of pseudon...I agree with the others, probably a lot of pseudonyms going down out there. lol Also think it is more of a matter of writing what you want to write about, versus 'can't' write it.<br /><br />Stephen King, George R. R. Martin, Neil Gaiman, etc. can probably write anything (convincingly) that they want to write about. Like the rest of us, they likely just focus on things that entertain and fascinate them. And you're right, there isn't a lot of room for romance in the Fire & Ice series. <br /><br />*stabbety stabbety stabbety* "I love you!" *BEHEADING* :-DAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00273059558675234923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-1564078524738512002013-02-12T08:54:53.509-06:002013-02-12T08:54:53.509-06:00Yeah, I bet there are more men but they are hiding...Yeah, I bet there are more men but they are hiding behind women's names. :)Charity Bradfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01960821077619680661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-40963659493501976482013-02-12T08:51:12.948-06:002013-02-12T08:51:12.948-06:00I forgot about that scene in Pillars. And I though...I forgot about that scene in Pillars. And I thought there was an historical romance novelist who was a man who wrote under a woman's name. Can't think who...mshatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308916014310536449noreply@blogger.com