tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post7858221014271265157..comments2023-08-01T05:26:06.539-05:00Comments on Unicorn Bell: Exploding the Truths of the Publishing WorldHuntresshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-10124880511871441582012-07-11T13:12:43.121-05:002012-07-11T13:12:43.121-05:00no desire to read. sounds like porn and i want a p...no desire to read. sounds like porn and i want a plot not a b or dd movie with lots of sex scenes. pass!Tara Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587802105993889515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-40394387112488552692012-07-11T12:25:14.913-05:002012-07-11T12:25:14.913-05:00(I was sort of replying to L.Blankenship about the...(I was sort of replying to L.Blankenship about the publishers.) But I'm sad about the popularity of bestsellers that are unprofessionally written, with plot holes, unbelievable characterizations, and where the main concept is unoriginal and vapid. <br />I write what I would've liked to read as a teen. I try hard to write well about characters with depth, about interesting concepts, and with page-turning tension. I hope that's enough ... but I'm afraid my writing will never appeal to 'everyone' in a lowest-common-denominator sort of way like certain bestsellers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735576044552810103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-6498862453214174962012-07-11T04:34:46.854-05:002012-07-11T04:34:46.854-05:00Actually I don't blame anyone for books that d...Actually I don't blame anyone for books that don't appeal to my taste. The market is what it is and there is always someone ready to fill the vacuum.<br /><br />Write what the public wants. Or write what you personally love to read. And count yourself lucky if it is one and the same.Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-51735152892910064822012-07-10T22:17:09.378-05:002012-07-10T22:17:09.378-05:00I don't blame the publishers for bad books. Th...I don't blame the publishers for bad books. They just publish them; it's a business. It's the millions of idiots that buy them and make them into bestsellers that tick me off. The majority rules, and apparently it's the same majority that made shows like Gerry Springer, Jersey Shore and Paris Hilton so popular.<br /><br />Perhaps the demise of Sex and the City left a vacuum of people who wanted titillation and bought 50 Shades. Maybe the demise of Buffy left the door open for Twilight. (Though Buffy was the antithesis of Bella.)<br /><br />It's a sad commentary on our society that pop culture trends out-sell art at every turn.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735576044552810103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-74965264487475696952012-07-10T20:33:00.490-05:002012-07-10T20:33:00.490-05:00I can see the problems with sentence structure in ...I can see the problems with sentence structure in Twilight now. But to me, it is the sign of a debut writer. But it had a story to it, unique and captivating.<br /><br />But Fifty Shades? *shrug* It appears to be one vast bed scene with fillers in between.<br /><br />Like I said earlier, maybe I should read it *shiver* before expressing an opinion.Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-51506074348846307472012-07-10T20:23:10.797-05:002012-07-10T20:23:10.797-05:00I don't mean to commandeer this discussion wit...I don't mean to commandeer this discussion with too many comments (especially since I will never read 50 Shades; feel free to call me on that), but I don't see how the two books are similar at all, other than the "forbidden" romance, but you can thank nearly every other romance story for that, right? 50 Shades has no paranormal element in it, even though it began as Twilight fan fiction. Apparently, James turned it into a romance based on hardcore S&M, not vampires or werewolves. <br /><br />I read the Twilight series, enjoyed it, but understood from the beginning that the writing was a bit facile for my tastes. There's been a lot of backlash against Twilight, probably mostly due to the popularity (which also begs the question of how much of the 50 Shades criticism is merely backlash), but I wouldn't say Twilight is terrible writing. I think it's fine to appreciate one but not the other. You have my blessing, Huntress. ;)Brent Wescotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08313269993916969201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-20008672495012745962012-07-10T20:09:51.835-05:002012-07-10T20:09:51.835-05:00Perhaps refrain from commenting on the language, p...Perhaps refrain from commenting on the language, poor or otherwise. But you already know the deal. I don't have to read a Nicholas Sparks book to know how saccharine it is. You don't have to read this to know it's porn. I don't think you have to read it at all. (Sorry, I'm just as terrible. I have my own strong opinion for not having read it either.)Brent Wescotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08313269993916969201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-75469225361603186822012-07-10T19:50:49.919-05:002012-07-10T19:50:49.919-05:00This discussion leaves me confused because I loved...This discussion leaves me confused because I loved Twilight. When critics panned the novel, I always said millions of readers can't be wrong.<br /><br />So here comes Fifty Shades. Doesn't the same argument apply?Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-464380949001665232012-07-10T19:39:15.037-05:002012-07-10T19:39:15.037-05:00'mommy porn' it's called. I'm no p...'mommy porn' it's called. I'm no prude but I want a story not sensationalism. <br /><br />I might have to buy the darn thing to legitimize my review.Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-45957934325874271802012-07-10T19:32:54.737-05:002012-07-10T19:32:54.737-05:00Now I go back, read a favorite book, see the poor ...Now I go back, read a favorite book, see the poor sentence structure, and wish to heavens I'd never known.<br /><br />It is distracting. I end up critiquing instead of enjoying the story.Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-80606679291634155032012-07-10T19:26:55.797-05:002012-07-10T19:26:55.797-05:00For us, bad writing is a distraction. When I read ...For us, bad writing is a distraction. When I read a new book, it shines like a light. I guess agents are the same way, they see crummy sentences, bad grammar, poor flow and hit the reject button.<br /><br />Too bad. The average reader doesn't give a fig about echoes or alliteration. They just want a story.Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-29954651418286908612012-07-10T19:20:06.205-05:002012-07-10T19:20:06.205-05:00That is freakin' amazing!That is freakin' amazing!Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-9092355864337386012012-07-10T19:18:30.605-05:002012-07-10T19:18:30.605-05:00Haven't read it, don't intend to. There ar...Haven't read it, don't intend to. There are too many books I know will be good on my tbr list. L made a good - albeit sad - point: sometimes crap sells (just think of some of movies that make a lot of $). And Liz has a good point,too. Because I read Twilight and I was entertained and I never noticed any of the stuff I've heard people complain of.<br /><br />All I can do is write the stuff I like to read and hope some people want to read it.mshatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308916014310536449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-55494615587078062052012-07-10T19:09:26.958-05:002012-07-10T19:09:26.958-05:00The way I reckon, everything is cyclical. I suppos...The way I reckon, everything is cyclical. I suppose it was just time for something like this. Funny thing too... I wrote a romantic story around the same time. TITLE....62 SHADES OF GRAY! No kidding. So funny!Write Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11243460609179141414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-66143550055360588642012-07-10T15:40:16.163-05:002012-07-10T15:40:16.163-05:00I have a theory why poorly written books make it t...I have a theory why poorly written books make it to bestsellerdom (not to say that this book was poorly written. I haven't read it, so I can't comment as to its merits). <br /><br />Most people don't critique books as they read. They read for entertainment. They look for a story that speaks to them. They will overlook gross errors if the story speaks to them.<br /><br />Books that hit bestseller charts speak to a lot of people. If the popular mood is not served by books (or TV shows or movies) of quality, then the people will accept the mediocre that speaks to their mood. (There's a reason there are so many successful procedurals on TV. People like mysteries, and they will watch whatever mysteries are provided for them.)<br /><br />The trick is to write something of quality and hope that it hits the public at the right time.<br /><br />Well, it's only a theory...Liz A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16531953467834426316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-40630063568851140922012-07-10T13:07:13.098-05:002012-07-10T13:07:13.098-05:00I have yet to read it and I'm really afraid to...I have yet to read it and I'm really afraid to go there. I read Twilight because of my daughter at the time. She was a 'tween and into the books because her friends were and I, being the mom I am, wanted to make sure they were 'okay'. Doesn't mean I liked the books. I've already heard how they're throwing Fifty Shades into the same category as Twilight, so if I were to read it, it would only be to see what the heck the hype is all about. If I were to review it... I may have haters. I'm not really gearing towards reading this. I don't want to waste the time, but I am the type of person that would rather form my own opinion rather than that of the masses. But I don't exactly like the fact that books like this (meaning poorly written as some have stated) make it to the top. It does explode the truth of the publishing world. It does make it seem like you don't need to know what you're doing to get published. There are lots of poorly written books out there that could have made it like this, but they haven't. Why? Why this one? Why Twilight? Who's next? Do I keep writing and skip editing to get my work out there and be like these guys or do I continue to uphold my standards and hone my skills? It's frustrating to say the least.Mel Chesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08200734886454147170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-66342700564367841232012-07-10T10:30:11.006-05:002012-07-10T10:30:11.006-05:00'...the popularity...flies in the face of hope...'...the popularity...flies in the face of hope...'<br /><br />Ain't that the truth. This business can drive a writer to drink. Or at least to chocolate.Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-3616658147230541682012-07-10T10:28:37.172-05:002012-07-10T10:28:37.172-05:00The target keeps moving. Or maybe the sign posts.The target keeps moving. Or maybe the sign posts.Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-65702324919397132772012-07-10T08:48:00.782-05:002012-07-10T08:48:00.782-05:00It's funny how a book comes along every so oft...It's funny how a book comes along every so often and "explodes the truth of the publishing world" as you state. Such an interesting industry with no real hard and fast rules because as soon as the rules are laid down a book storms through them to sell millions and everyone hurries to make new rules.Karen Jones Gowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01153821980625034810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-83893675313463439472012-07-10T08:29:23.452-05:002012-07-10T08:29:23.452-05:00It's really all about sex. If this book weren&...It's really all about sex. If this book weren't chock full of sex, it would never be what it is. <br /><br />That's me being slightly facetious. The real bummer about it is that the popularity of this flies in the face of the hope of unpublished writers that good writing will out. We believe that if we write good stuff, people will want it. Instead, if we write salacious stuff, people will want it.Brent Wescotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08313269993916969201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-54399827119673386462012-07-10T07:28:03.975-05:002012-07-10T07:28:03.975-05:00A fluffy kitten mauled the hell out of my hand one...A fluffy kitten mauled the hell out of my hand one time. I say they are all evil.<br /><br />The times, they are a changin' - Bob DylanHuntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-6302840756066215152012-07-10T07:15:09.100-05:002012-07-10T07:15:09.100-05:00I don't know -- people like to rant about all ...I don't know -- people like to rant about all the crap being published, and seem to forget that publishing is a business. It's about selling things, first, last, and always. <br /><br />Not about great art. If great art sells, then hey we'll publish great art. <br /><br />If crap sells, then they'll publish crap. If people can't wrap their heads around WHY crap sells, that means absolutely nothing. It sells. Publish it. <br /><br />Publishing exists to make money for its investors. Period.<br /><br />I'm not saying that's bad or good or evil or fluffy kittens. It's just the truth.blankenship.louisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05541461775158369620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-22804162578349046542012-07-10T05:38:57.758-05:002012-07-10T05:38:57.758-05:00Curiosity would drive me to buy it but yikes. 10 b...Curiosity would drive me to buy it but yikes. 10 bucks on Amazon? I'll sit on my need-to-know and tell it to settle down.Huntresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155372788872245758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4393512822627120580.post-5155256590301059832012-07-10T05:24:21.408-05:002012-07-10T05:24:21.408-05:00I bought it at an airport out of curiosity. It'...I bought it at an airport out of curiosity. It's not a page turner, and there's no depth to either the writing or the plot...but curiously, I'm still reading it. I guess great hype is as important as great writing.Karen Baldwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01522178275164058849noreply@blogger.com